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I am on the waitlist. Now what?

Posted by on Thursday, April 7, 2011 in Waitlist.

The first thing I would say to a student on the waitlist is congratulations.  No, seriously.  In this hyper competitive admissions environment our waitlist hosts an amazing selection of academic all-stars.  Make no mistake- the waitlist was not haphazardly thrown together.  It was carefully crafted so that we have the absolute best students to choose from post-May 1.  I know you waited a long time to get an answer from us and it’s frustrating that the answer is “wait some more”, so in an effort to calm your nerves, here are some answers to those pestering questions.

How big is the waitlist?

To be completely honest, we don’t know.  We won’t really know until the end of the summer when we mine through our final numbers.  However, looking to last year’s waitlist numbers will give you a good indication of how the process works.  You can find all of the detailed numbers in our Common Data Set, going back to the 1999-2000 admissions cycle.

Last year we offered spots on the waiting list to several thousand; only 35% of those offered a place chose to wait it out with us.  Of those who chose to wait on us, about 19% eventually earned admission to the Class of 2014; students pulled from the waitlist comprise approximately 10% of the current first-year class.  If everything goes according to expectations, our waitlist this year will operate similarly.

Is there a rank to the waitlist? How do you choose someone to pull from the waitlist?
As I indicated in a previous blog, there isn’t actually one waitlist, but rather many different groups of students.  First, remember that we admit by school (and there are four different schools at Vanderbilt).  Moreover, many of our schools admit by major or program (Human and Organizational Development for example).  Thus, our first consideration when we go to the waitlist will be which schools, and perhaps programs, need more students.

The absolute primary factor when we pull students from the waitlist will be academic strength, the same criteria that carried the most weight during the regular decision process.  The students with the strongest curriculum, grades, and test scores will stand out.  We will additionally consider the intangible pieces of your file based on the advocacy from your admissions counselor, what did the counselor note as stand out in your application?

Finally, we reserve the right to consider demonstrated interest and financial need on the waitlist.  That does not mean you will be disqualified if you have financial need.  In fact, over half of the students pulled from our waitlist last year did demonstrate need.  We say we reserve the right just to be fair and transparent, so you know what’s going on behind the scenes.

How can I demonstrate my continued interest in Vanderbilt?

This is always a tricky question because showing your interest and stalking your admissions counselor is a fine line.  At Vanderbilt, the number of times you call/email/visit is not what we mean by demonstrated interest.  We are actually more concerned with the sincerity of your interest.  So one email or phone call to your admissions counselor is usually sufficient.

What should the email or phone call entail?  Introduce yourself, explain that you are on the waitlist, briefly highlight any new developments since you applied, and close the email or call by confirming your continued interest in remaining on the waitlist.  Your admissions counselor will take this email or phone call and record it in our electronic student record system and voila your interest is demonstrated.

Why do I keep getting emails about the Vanderbilt waitlist?  Do I need to fill out each one?

We will send you an email about once per month to evaluate whether or not you still wish to remain on our waitlist.  Often a student who expresses interest in waiting on us in early April changes their mind by the time June rolls around.  These periodic emails allow for those who have not changed their mind to reiterate their intention to wait.   Please complete each email you receive (they typically take 60 seconds to fill out).

How can I look more attractive as a waitlist candidate?  Should I send in new information?

This is another tricky question because you do not want to inundate the office with material we already possess, but you do want to make sure we are evaluating the whole picture.  My advice is to only send us more information if you have concrete changes such as new grades or midterm grades.  Another must-send is a new, higher test score (including new AP scores).  As far as intangible information goes, I would only send updates if you received a significant award or honor.

I discourage you from sending in new letters of recommendation unless you feel that this letter would change the way we perceive you as an applicant (for example, it will contain information not previously revealed about you).  The reason I discourage this is that A) it is taxing on your teachers to be pressed at this time of year and B) more letters does not equal more information; the new letters of recommendation typically say the same things your original letters said.

When will you go to the waitlist?

Last year we made our first wave of waitlist offers on May 5.  After that we go to the waitlist about every two weeks.  Our waitlist officially closed on August 9.    Yes you may be lucky enough to hear from us in four short weeks.  Or you may have to wait four months.  I know how agonizing that possibility may be – one of my students was the very last student called with a waitlist offer and I know she had all but given up on us.

Remember you have the power, too.  If at any point you decide that you cannot wait with us any longer, you may withdraw.

My other collegiate options require an enrollment deposit by May 1, but Vanderbilt is my first choice, what do I do?

You must deposit elsewhere and start making plans to attend another institution.  This usually means you will have to send a matriculation deposit elsewhere and start with orientation, housing, and class selection at another institution.  If admitted to Vanderbilt (and you choose to enroll at Vanderbilt) you will likely lose that original deposit.  That is a serious financial conversation your family will need to have.

What about financial aid?  If I am pulled from the waitlist when will I learn about my need-based package?

If pulled from the waitlist you will receive a phone call from an admissions officer informing you of your acceptance.  That same day a letter from the financial aid office will hit the mail containing your need-based package information.  You will have seven days from the day you receive the phone call to reply to us.  If there is a delay in your financial aid package we may grant a financial aid extension, but this is on a case-by-case basis.  It is a very quick turnaround so that if you choose not to attend we can offer the space to another eager student.  Because of the short timeframe, you need to have a discussion with your family ahead of time about what an acceptable need-based package would contain and how much you can honestly afford to pay out-of-pocket.

If I am pulled from the waitlist will I still receive the same housing and classes as other students?

Yes!  All of our first-year students will live in the Commons together.  Additionally, class selection does not begin until late June and early July so most waitlist students will be pulled into the class before that time.  Those pulled in afterwards will still have a huge selection of coursework available.  Finally, orientation happens the first few days on campus so everyone will be on the same footing in that respect.

I think I could type Q & A waitlist questions all day, but I am going to stop here for now and let y’all ask the rest.  If you have a question, post below.

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Responses

  • Adam

    April 7th, 2011

    Because grades and test scores carry the greatest weight going forward, is there a rough profile of students offered a spot on the waitlist (middle 50% ACT, class rank, etc)? I know the official statistics aren’t available until later this summer.

  • Kylie

    April 7th, 2011

    Adam: I do not have a profile of the waitlist class. However, I can tell you from my work with the numbers that it is not too different from the admitted student profile.

  • kate

    April 8th, 2011

    How does the roommate selection & housing process work for students accepted off of the waitlist? Thanks so much!

  • Kylie

    April 8th, 2011

    Kate: Housing will not be assigned until the beginning-middle of August so all of our students pulled from the waitlist will go through the same process as all first-year students. It is essentially random assignments in one of our ten houses of the Commons; mostly double rooms.

  • Kyle

    April 8th, 2011

    So, when sending an email, should it be short and formal; as in should it be something quick to read (no Word attachments) and a statement providing interest ? Or could it be a few paragraphs with an update on life and a “why Vanderbilt is still the number one choice?”

  • Kylie

    April 8th, 2011

    Kyle: I recommend choosing the short route unless your academic/life situation has dramatically changed since we read your file.

  • Jim

    April 11th, 2011

    Is there a way to know the admission statistics by school? Since you should have all your commitments by May 1, will the early May notification be the best chance? Thanks.

  • Kylie

    April 11th, 2011

    Jim: We will not have statistics by school until September. There is no “best chance” for waitlist, keep tuned for updates!

  • jane

    April 12th, 2011

    can you tell us the admission statistics by school from last year’s numbers?

  • Kylie

    April 12th, 2011

    Jane: Sure! Check out my 10th Day Data post from last September.

  • Sara

    April 12th, 2011

    If we’d like to send in new information, what address should we use?

  • Kylie

    April 13th, 2011

    Sara: 2305 West End Ave.

  • jane

    April 13th, 2011

    i meant the admission statistics by school for WAITLIST students from last year. Thanks.

  • Kylie

    April 13th, 2011

    Jane: No, we do not publish those statistics.

  • Robert

    April 13th, 2011

    “We reserve the right to consider demonstrated interest and financial need on the waitlist. That does not mean you will be disqualified if you have financial need. In fact, over half of the students pulled from our waitlist last year did demonstrate need.”(I am on the waitlist. Now what? April 7, 2011)
    “Like all institutions of higher education, Vanderbilt also has limited financial resources; however, our budget allocates enough monies to student financial aid so that we can be need-blind in admissions. This means that when I read an application I do not consider whether you check “yes” or “no” in regards to need-based aid. In fact, I have little to no information about a family’s financials when I read an application.” (What Not to Fret Aabout, December 1, 2010)
    I am confused by these two posts. Has the Vanderbilt need-blind policy changed? Does this mean that a student can be rejected because of his/her family’s financials situation? If not, why does Vanderbilt consider financial need when making the admission decision?

  • Kylie

    April 13th, 2011

    Robert: No, our need-blind policy has not changed. We are need-blind throughout the entire Early Decision and Regular Decision admissions process. We may consider need when we move to our waitlist, however. As I stated above, this does not mean that financial need will be considered, but it does mean that we reserve the right to consider that factor as we admit students from the waitlist. We publicly put this out there so that students and families know what goes into our decision-making process. We remain 100% committed to access for all students, regardless of socio-economic background.

  • SouthernMama in NJ

    April 14th, 2011

    Can “new information” be emailed with an attachment to your respective admissions rep or would it have to be mailed? Thank you.

  • Kylie

    April 14th, 2011

    SouthernMama: You may email it if you wish.

  • CommodoreHope

    April 14th, 2011

    So I sent in an email with two attachments. I suppose there is no acknowledgement of receipt we just assume it was received and wait for the good word?

  • Kylie

    April 14th, 2011

    CommodoreHope: You can assume we’ve received it!

  • Robert

    April 15th, 2011

    Kylie, thank you for your blogs, though I am still concerned about the waitlist admission. My understanding is that the need-blind policy does not apply to the process of admitting students from the waitlist. This means that student’s family’s financial situation will become a factor that affects the judgment of admission. I personally do not believe that this is fair for those applicants who are really in need of financial help because they have no power to control or change their family’s financial situation. This would put those applicants in an unequal position to compete with other applicants who are more financially fit. That is very sad! I think that Vandy should continue applying the need-blind policy during the waitlist admission to give an equal opportunity for all applicants. Would you please bring this issue to the Vanderbilt admission committee? Thanks again, Kylie.

  • Adam

    April 16th, 2011

    When should we be expecting the first email asking whether or not we wish to stay on the waitlist? Just want to make sure I didn’t miss it!

  • Janelamotta

    April 24th, 2011

    when is the first wave of admitted off the waitlist?

  • Guest

    April 3rd, 2012

    I’m a National Merit Finalist, which means I must select a first choice school to receive the scholarship at that school. Naturally, I will select the bird in hand. What accommodations are made by Vanderbilt to award the National Merit award I would have received if I had chosen Vanderbilt?

  • Ryan Burleson

    April 3rd, 2012

    Our policy is to award National Merit Scholarships to admitted students who list Vanderbilt as their first choice by National Merit Corporation’s deadline, which is May 31. Assuming we admit students from the wait list, we often begin contacting students in early May, so hypothetically you could have an opportunity to list VU as your first pick if admitted prior to 5/31. That’s not always the case (our wait list process lasts longer than one month some years), however.

  • KellyMurphy

    April 4th, 2012

    Does a phone call to the admissions counselor look significantly better than an e-mail?

  • Ryan Burleson

    April 4th, 2012

    Thanks for your question. No, your demonstrated interest will be telegraphed the same via phone or email. What’s important is that you respond positively to any additional forms or emails we send out inquiring about your continued interest.